> I have NO clue about a PID loop, so if someone could give me some code to > look at and get an understanding, I'd greatly appreciate it! [WARNING]: this ended up being a long post Actually, the pseudo-code for a PID loop is pretty basic. Say you want to control motor rpm: pid_calc: last_error = error error = target_rpm - measured_rpm sum_error = sum_error + error delta_error = error - last_error proportional_term = error * proportional_gain integral_term = sum_error * integral_gain derivative_term = delta_error * derivative_gain control_signal = proportional_term + integral_term + derivative_term and the pwm for the motor is derived from control_signal. The real trick is tuning the gains to get your system to respond the way you want. The integral term gets you to a steady state operating condition; the proportional term reacts to sudden changes in speed (therefore, load), and the derivative term helps react to a rapidly changing error. The derivative term is often not needed - I would certainly start without it. Using just the integral will work, but the system will react relatively slowly to changes. You can also use just the proportional term, but the speed will always be at some offset from the target speed (some error would always be required to have the control signal non-zero). In a PI system, if the proportional gain is too large, the system will oscillate around the target (hunting). Some other considerations/thoughts for turning this into actual code: - pid_calc should be called at a consistent time interval, which should be based on how fast the systems responds to a change in the control signal. Do NOT adjust faster than the system can respond, or the feedback is meaningless! - be aware of the effect that filtering the feedback signal can have on the response of the system. For example, if the rpm is being measured via a frequency to voltage converter fed into an a/d input on the pic - that is likely being done more frequently than pid_calc, with the result filtered before being used in the pid calculations. - error has a sign - this has to be dealt with in all the math. You want the integral sum (sum_error) to be able to move up & down - so you want a signed error - but that can be accomplished without actually using signed variables, if that is your preference. On the other hand, a negative control signal doesn't make sense in many systems. For example, controlling the speed of a motor that can turn in both directions: the motor direction is probably set elsewhere and is not tied to this control signal. So you would trap a negative error and set it to zero for the proportional term calculation. - bounds checking in general: you don't want the integral term to roll over (I've heard this called "winding up"); you'll probably want to clamp it at some value that represents the maximum control signal allowable. Typically, the integral gain is 1, and the proportional gain is large - which means you need to make sure that the proportional gain calculation is "legal", etc... - one approach is to have control_signal 16 bits, error 8 bits, and the pwm output the high byte of control_signal. With the integral gain = 1, this is a good place to start for a controlled ramping up to a target value. - you'll have to decide when to reset the integral sum (sum_error) to zero. Also, you might have a condition where you save the integral sum, then restore it later. For example, to stop quickly, you set the pwm output to zero; then to get going again, if you know you want to be back at the same speed, you just restore the old integral sum, rather than waiting for the loop to build it back up again. Another example of integral sum manipulation: if the target rpm changes by a large amount, you could add or subtract some chunk from the integral sum to give the pid loop a head start on getting to the new speed. - if you need to really get fancy, obviously the gains don't have to be constant. They can be proportional to the error, or different for different ranges of error, or different for positive and negative errors, etc. The limit on the integral sum also doesn't need to be constant. Just start simple, as things can get really complex - especially when your system is "crossing boundaries". - and on and on... -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body