Jinx wrote: > There's definitely no silver backing on these (well, most of > them). It might be aluminium or just plain ceramic that had > a mechanical prong connection Hi Jinx, since I know you weld and are open to quirky ideas, how about "metalising" the ceramic surface by vaporising a copper wire close to it? Like the inside of a badly blown fuse, if you severely over-current a copper wire it gives a very nice copper film on anything near it. Maybe try cleaning the ceramic surface, lay a copper wire near it and attach it to the welder? I've been itching to try something like this, but had nothing to "metalise"... :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body