This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_GxlKyJ9VVsVInFXsb8KxxQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Bobs right, most issues are minor. I used Rick Farmers boot loader because it is simple and only requires hyper-terminal or similar. The bootup delay can be easily shortened as the code is fully commented and easy to follow... The serial HW for my particular project was built into a DB9 housing with a 4pin connector on the main board. Very compact. Rick Farmers boot loader, V1.3, will automatically move the users reset vector when the file is dumped to the PIC. I use it with CCS PCW. No problems so far... Bob Ammerman wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:34:14PM +1000, Antonio L Benci wrote: > > > Check out: > > > > > > http://www.dontronics.com/rfarmer.html > > > > Just a real quick comment or two from looking at the site: > > > > - I have a problem with the fact that it uses the standard USART. That's a > > valuable piece of real estate to dedicate to the bootloader. > > Can't the app use the USART once it is running? My bootloader supports this > with no problem. > > > - Because it uses the standard USART it requires the addition of serial > port > > conversion hardware on board the target. > > Why can't the level converter be on a programming dongle, instead of on the > target board. > > > - It adds a 15 second boot delay to the system. Just a bit too invasive > for > > my taste. > > This is a bit excessive, but could probably be tweaked much lower without > trouble. > > > - It requires the programmer to move the code out of the reset area > instead of > > moving it automatically. > > I don't view this as a serious issue. You do it -> it's done. > > > I'm absolutely a true fan of Wloader: > > Yes, indeed an excellent thing! > > Bob Ammerman > RAm Systems > (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level > software) > Nino -- ------------------------------------------------------ | Antonio (Nino) L. Benci | | Professional Officer, Electronic Services | | School of Physics & Materials Engineering | | Monash University | | email: nino.benci@spme.monash.edu | | T: 61 3 9905 3649. F: 61 3 9905 3637 | | M: 0414 924 833 | ------------------------------------------------------ --Boundary_(ID_GxlKyJ9VVsVInFXsb8KxxQ) Content-type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name=Nino.Benci.vcf Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=Nino.Benci.vcf Content-description: Card for Antonio L Benci begin:vcard n:Benci;Antonio L tel;cell:0414 924 833 tel;fax:+61 3 9905 3637 tel;home:0414 924 833 tel;work:+61 3 9905 3649 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.physics.monash.edu.au/~ninob org:Monash University;School of Physics & Materials Engineering version:2.1 email;internet:Nino.Benci@spme.monash.edu title:Professional Officer, Electronic Services adr;quoted-printable:;;PO Box 27=0D=0ASchool of Physics and Materials Engineering=0D=0AMonash University;Monash University;VIC;3800;Australia x-mozilla-cpt:;10672 fn:Antonio L Benci end:vcard --Boundary_(ID_GxlKyJ9VVsVInFXsb8KxxQ)-- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics