Here's my idea, but i have no knowledge of IR comms.. Take a pic make it emulate the pc and attach it inside the = keyboard(powered from batteries). Take another and make it emulate the = keyboard. I think there were comm routines for the keyboard, so that = part should be easy. transmission from the keyboard to the pc is the = trick. using an ir dectetor from radio shack should work, and it say = the bandpass center frequency is 40 KHz. It output the precense of a = 40khz signal as almost logic level voltages(.5 low and 4.2 high). but = it also does not say the pickup dection rate :(...... to transmit you = just modulate the high bits and not low. would i have to translate the bits from keyb code to ascii before = transmission? how long would the translation take at 4Mhz approximately?? and if i did it ascii way how fast would i have to transmit the bytes? i was thinking like around 2400 bps....(then my palmtop could control it = too :) thanks for any ideas/suggestion/criticizm/complaints.... send flames to: /dev/null andy n1yew -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics