At 03:05 PM 7/16/01 -0400, you wrote: >I am embarrassed to say that I do not get it. What's the 500w load in your >diagram? In your scenario, is the faulty neutral at the breaker box or at >the lamp? Where I drew the // lines in it (below). The 500W load might be other lights, whatever. The important thing is that it is higher current draw (lower impedance) than the lamp. If the neutral is broken entirely, then the voltage will divide across the two loads. Assuming (for simplicity) the two loads are resistive, and that the 100W lamp is R = 144 ohms, the 500W load is 28.8 ohms (fixed for simplicity), then the 100W bulb would see 240 * (144/(144+28.8) = 200V. Obviously it won't last very long at all! If the loads on either side of the neutral are exactly balanced, then there will be no obvious ill effects from breaking the neutral. >Every outlet/lamp fixture in my house has 3 wires - what I typically think >of as 'line', 'ground', and 'neutral'. Ground and neutral are at the same >potential and 'line' is +-120vac. I think of ground as an alternate return >path to ground in case the line is accidentally exposed. I have never quite >understood why ground and neutral should be electrically isolated. It's a safety issue. The safety ground is not supposed to carry current except under fault conditions. Typically something like the housing of a clothes washer is connected to ground. Imagine if it was connected to neutral and the neutral went open (you don't have to think about the other line to see this..) all of a sudden the metal housing is at 120VAC (in series with the internal motor or whatever), which will happily fry you without getting much voltage across it. >So you are saying that with a faulty neutral, a 120vac appliance with see >240vac? It can see anything between close to zero to close to 240, depending on how imbalanced the loads are. But a flickering (to dim) could just be a bad connection in series with the load. Flickering (to more brightly) pretty much nails it down to being a bad neutral. Best regards, > >120VAC >o-------x <----------x > | | > [100W bulb] | >N | | >o--//---x 240VAC > | | > [500W load] | > | | >o-------x <----------x >120VAC =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads