I am not a lawyer, nor have I played one on T.V., but from what I've been told by people who are lawyers, any material that has a verifiable date on it is valid for both defending a patent, and challenging a patent. If you have a design and have documents with a verifiable date, and some one comes along at a later date and patents what you designed, you should be able to challenge that patent. This does not me that you can get the patent yourself or stop them from using your design, but it does mean that they cannot stop you, or anybody else from using your design. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Butler [mailto:dbutler@imetrix.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 6:53 AM To: PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu Subject: [OT]: Patents (was removing numbers from chips) > In summary, a 'sealed envelope' is now next to useless for getting > or challenging a patent in the USA. > How about getting your work published, does that still prove "prior art". If so how does web publishing apply? I am mostly interested in "defensive patenting" so someone else can't patent my work out from under me. Sherpa Doug -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads