In article <3B4F6B61.13DE556D@nomad.ee>, Madis Kaal writes: > Hi, everyone. > > This newsgroup was started by me as local group on my newsserver > but it 'escaped' (information wants to be free :)) and got > distributed over usenet. > > The group is actually a read-only gate of PICLIST mailing list > (see http://www.piclist.com) which I created so that I could use > newsreader to quickly go though a huge traffic the list generates. > In june, PICLIST manager silently unsubscribed the gateway address > from a list and most of the message flow disappeared. > > Today I resubscribed the account and it got unsubscribed again. > This time I saw an unsubscription result message and contacted the > list manager in question. His response (From: address garbled, > and gateway address hidden by me): > >>Subject: Re: Your removal from the PICLIST list >> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:16:52 -0500 (CDT) >> From: Dale Botkin >> To: Madis Kaal >> >>The email address xxx@xxx was removed (twice, once today and >>once in June) to prevent the PIClist from being gatewayed to USENET. >>List members and the list admins do not want the list relayed to USENET in >>order to minimize the amount of email address harvesting done by spammers. >> >>If you wish to personally subscribe, that's fine, but please do not echo >>the list traffic to a news group. >> >>Dale > > In short, the message feed is down and unless there is enough > interest it will stay down. If you want to read PICLIST as a newsgroup > (possibly with sender addresses mangled or removed), please bitch Dale > about it. The address above needs a controlled use of Del key, but is > otherwise correct. This is a great shame - Usenet is a much more convenient medium for reading the Piclist, IMO. Could you make your gateway mung the From: field in the gatewayed headers to obfuscate the sender's address? This should defeat address harvesting by spammers and allay the fears of the listadmin... Regards Tom. CCed: to mast@nomad.ee & dale@botkin.org -- Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill, Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England. Email: uhap023@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk SPAN: 19.875 Fax: +44 (0) 1784 472794 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads