From: Russell McMahon > - Identify ALL components clearly Fair points RM. On occasion I've given prototypes to potential (and AFAIK non-technical) customers and just for peace of mind I remove the ID, although as you say, removing ID is not a deterrent to the serious hacker. Even if the chip can't be ID'd or read, the functions it performs probably would be very difficult to protect. Then again, I'm sure many of us have come up against a chip with in-house numbers and no documentation And yes, I'm always there with notes for the customer in the future. Good service is just as important as price, possibly more so if you want them to come back, YMMV -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.