> > anybody have suggestions for fast / easy / clean way of removing > > part numbers / id info from IC's, a couple hundred to do at a time > I use a small belt sander with 100 grit belt. You hardly need to apply > any pressure and you can hand-hold the chip quite safely (better for > that little bit of tactile feedback anyway) I'm surprised at all these useful answers (not just the above from my esteemed co-Westie) with nary a comment on advisability. What you WANT to do is what Hewlett Packard used to do before they were seduced by the dark side and became like everyone else (and worse). - Identify ALL components clearly - Provide detailed circuit diagrams with component lists - Provide detailed descriptions of circuit operation including what goes on inside any special chips. - Publish free glossy technical journals describing in detail your leading edge discoveries and research. - Sell at a price that seems high at first but is unbeatable by anyone wanting to achieve equivalent functionality and quality. Presumably, if you are de-identifying your ICs, it is to protect users from unscrupulous repairers who would rip them off. Presumably it is not to keep out honest competition. - Presumably you will always be there for them, will always support your product, will never decide it is too old to be worth servicing, will always offer a reasonable turn around time and price for repairs. - Presumably you will hand out full circuits and circuit descriptions fro free if you decide to no longer do any of the above. In my experience, ground off part numbers, like encryption schemes and indeed locks etc, only keep out and inconvenience honest people. It is very seldom that a competent person cannot deduce what an IC is by its pinout and functionality. Harder - yes. Annoying - yes. Stops copying - not at all. Makes life hard for repair people when equipment has been abandoned by the supplier or the supplier has vanished - you bet. If you must do it, boiling for an extended period in concentrated red fuming nitric acid seems to work well :-) Russell McMahon _____________________________ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics