Strange. Test: 1) Without putting the Chip in any socket, use a multimeter and measure= resistance between Vss and Vdd. 2)Put the chip in the socket and without powering up and disconnected from= computer measure again. Note: theese chips have double supply pins, you hve not by chance crossed= them? /Morgan Tack f=F6r ditt meddelande 14:40 2001-07-08 enligt nedan: >Hi all, > >Can anyone think of an explanation for this?? >My NOPPP programmer will not program 16F877s yet I know the design has been >used to do so by others. >I've programmed 16F84(A)s okay so I now the programmer works. I've checked >and double checked the 18-pin to 40-pin adapter and all the wires are going >to the correct pins. >When I test the voltages with the chip out of the circuit I get a nice 5v >supply. >When I put the chip in place the power supply shuts down. The power supply >can do 1A so I don't think it's just that the supply needed is higher than= a >16F84 (which I've succesfully programmed!). >The chips are brand new. Is there anything that would cause a 16F877 to= short >out. I've tested two chips and they are both the same... > >Ben > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body