One other thing I noticed is that the library seems VERY sparse compared to the ivex or orcad libraries. I have an old copy of orcad, but it was DOS based. Their new version runs about $1400 for schematic capture and from $3K to $11K for PCB layout. They don't have a hobby version anymore... Oh well..... I'll keep searching... Ron "Alexandre Domingos F. Souza" wrote: > >As a follow-up... I traded emails with the www.holophase.com people and they corrected me that there have been some 20+ updates since that > >release. I downloaded their eval software (full one costs $1K) and immediately needed a registry fix to remove all of the white lines the > >software was putting on my IBM laptop screen. Turns out I needed to slow down the graphics accelerator. After that it seemed to work > >fine. The people were responsive. I need to do some testing... > > Circad is the best thing I've ever seen in computers directed to electronics. Period. So bad they don't agree in making a "cheap" version for hobbists and students. I'd love to buy Circad, but it's TOO expensive (man, did I said EXPENSIVE!?!?!) for almost everyone. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.