Scott, I cant seem to get my mail (oe5) archive back to life so I cant get to that part. I vaguely remember that I must have both the schematic and the brd open at the same time so the program can keep them in synch. I also rip-up the trace ( so I get airwires) then use manual ( and some auto route). Robert Francisco > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads