I didn't notice that original post (my bad) but note that http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/begin.htm does have a few tutorial samples that may fit Mike's needs. http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/cheapic/swcnt.htm part of http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/cheapic is a good one. I don't think Stan Ockers [ockers at anl.gov] got enough positive feedback and encouragement or help to continue with the cheapic project. I converted the old Pic Source book by Mike Edwards from Parallax to Microchip mnemonics using Tony's Parapic program and did some clean up, but more cleanup and testing is needed http://www.piclist.com/techref/microchip/seepicsrc/index.htm I really, really hope some people will feel the desire to take time to do this. --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Michaels Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:45 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: 'hole' in PIC information available Montaigne, Mike - NRC wrote: >Tks Dan, > >As mentioned, I went and 'bought' my "Complete" running example programs, >for the 84 series, because that was the quickest and perhaps only way I >could find to 'jump in'. > >The problem is not lack of information, it's just that it's not accessible. > >It would be great if the piclist community could respond....If Microchip >responded (ant they have already with demo boards, application notes etc., >they just haven't taken it far enough) it would be very smart marketing. > Hi Mike, I am re-posting your original msg here. There has been a definite lack of response on piclist - regarding the "merits" of what I suggested, but who knows ....... - dan ================= MIKE'S ORIGINAL MSG: I have some limited experience with the 16F84 but need to do a project with the 12C67X chip and I am trying to find some simple examples of code to help me get started. I have searched Microchip and the web and last years messages from this news group but have not learned the secret of finding programs relating to a specific processor line yet. If anyone can help me get started, it would be greatly appreciated. I have started trying to write a program to read pin 7 (A-D value between 0-5V) and output either the upper 4 or lower 4 bits on pins 2, 3, 5, & 6 using pin 4 as an upper/lower selection input. I thought this would give me a good start learning how to set up I/O with the chip. I'll worry about interrupts, timers, EPROM etc.. later. > >> ---------- >> From: Dan Michaels[SMTP:oricom@USWEST.NET] >> Reply To: pic microcontroller discussion list >> Sent: Thursday July 05, 2001 9:07 AM >> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >> Subject: Re: 'hole' in PIC information available >> >> Montaigne, Mike - NRC wrote: >> >I posted a basic question recently re: request for sample programs for >> the >> >12CE67X processor. Getting no sample programs from the newsgroup, I >> asked >> >Microchip for some help and got some excellent assistance to get me >> started >> >from support person Brent Walters. >> > >> >> I would like to make a comment. With the 'tons' of information >> available >> >> on the PIC, it is very frustrating to me to be unable to get what I >> think >> >> should be simple information without having to do what I did - go and >> >> bother Bret Walters with a question I should have been able to find out >> >> for myself. >> ........... >> >> >> Mike, you make a very good point. It is partly in response to your >> observations that I recently posted the suggestions that I did >> - repeated below. >> >> best regards, >> - dan michaels >> www.oricomtech.com >> ========================= >> >> PART OF ORIGINAL FOLLOWS: >> >> ............. >> You know, in retrospect, I wonder whether the piclist community >> hasn't totally gone off in the wrong direction here. Instead of >> offering disembodied code segments and pushing for open-source >> universal programmers which entail months and months of work, >> maybe we would be better served if we concentrated on the >> following: >> >> 1 - "Complete" running example programs for ALL the standard PIC >> controllers that would contain a good mix of the common operations >> - interrupts, RS232, A/D, I2C, timer fcns, command processing, >> etc. This would really make it easy for newbies to get into >> any PIC of their choice. Download a completely working source >> file, assemble, program and go - rather than grab a bunch of >> disembodied code fragments written in several different dialects. >> >> 2 - "Tools" - small, complete, and verified utility programs that >> perform certain targeted functions, like I2C and SPI EEPROM >> read/write, RS232 comms at all baud rates to test links, >> programs to exercise/test proto h.w., etc. These tools could >> be offered as both source and/or hex, and people could download >> them and program into a PIC and have them running in a matter >> of minutes. They would only need be available for about 3 cpus >> - '84, '873/876, '877 - covering major pinouts. They would have >> already been verified by others, and known to work properly. >> >> We seem to have both ends of the spectrum discussed a lot on >> piclist, but where is the middle ground? Maybe it's here somewhere >> and I haven't found it. >> ........ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu