Montaigne, Mike - NRC wrote:
>I posted a basic question recently re: request for sample programs for the
>12CE67X processor.  Getting no sample programs from the newsgroup, I asked
>Microchip for some help and got some excellent assistance to get me started
>from support person Brent Walters.
>
>> I would like to make a comment.  With the 'tons' of information available
>> on the PIC, it is very frustrating to me to be unable to get what I think
>> should be simple information without having to do what I did - go and
>> bother Bret Walters with a question I should have been able to find out
>> for myself.
...........


Mike, you make a very good point. It is partly in response to your
observations that I recently posted the suggestions that I did
- repeated below.

best regards,
- dan michaels
www.oricomtech.com
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PART OF ORIGINAL FOLLOWS:

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You know, in retrospect, I wonder whether the piclist community
hasn't totally gone off in the wrong direction here. Instead of
offering disembodied code segments and pushing for open-source
universal programmers which entail months and months of work,
maybe we would be better served if we concentrated on the
following:

1 - "Complete" running example programs for ALL the standard PIC
    controllers that would contain a good mix of the common operations
    - interrupts, RS232, A/D, I2C, timer fcns, command processing,
    etc. This would really make it easy for newbies to get into
    any PIC of their choice. Download a completely working source
    file, assemble, program and go - rather than grab a bunch of
    disembodied code fragments written in several different dialects.

2 - "Tools" - small, complete, and verified utility programs that
    perform certain targeted functions, like I2C and SPI EEPROM
    read/write, RS232 comms at all baud rates to test links,
    programs to exercise/test proto h.w., etc. These tools could
    be offered as both source and/or hex, and people could download
    them and program into a PIC and have them running in a matter
    of minutes. They would only need be available for about 3 cpus
    - '84, '873/876, '877 - covering major pinouts. They would have
    already been verified by others, and known to work properly.

We seem to have both ends of the spectrum discussed a lot on
piclist, but where is the middle ground? Maybe it's here somewhere
and I haven't found it.
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