About thoose compact flourescent lamps with integrated "electronic ballast"= that directly fits incandescent lamp sockets. I dont know if there are simple name for thoose in english? In Sweden they= are called "Low energy lamps" whereas "compact flourescent" are thoose= tubes only that can be exchanged without excanging the ballast, A consumer organisation here in Sweden is running tests of a lot of= different brands low energy lamps: Konsumentverket, reported last year in= the paper R=E5d&R=F6n. Test is AFAIK not finished yet (sheduled for 8000 hours) but at 2000 hours= they reported that there are very big differences. Of one brand all (10?) was broke after 2000hours, but some other brands none= was broke, other just one or a couple. Also both initial efficiency and even more the efficiency decay was very= different between manufacturers. Interestingly the price do not correlate much to the quality! My favourite is the brand IKEA: amongst the cheapest price (about 3-5 USD= IIRC) and medium to high quality, 4 to 20W types, 230VAC input sold here. = There are IKEA warehouses all over the world, see www.ikea.com According to IKEA website the mercury content is 3mg maximum, i don=B4t know= about other brands. They are are collected for recycling as normal= flourescent tubes. Those new LED lamps discussed in this thread seem interesting, although= illuminance and efficiency is not yet up to flourescent tubes. Another= interesting technology in development is the microwave heated sphere of= sulfur gas: Nontoxic, high efficiency, and pure white. Problem is to make= them small, but they have been installed using leaking light tubes so *one*= lamp can illuminate a tunnel or a large industri room. Another interesting= thing is the electrode free, direct inductively driven flourescent tube= OSRAM Endura http://catalog.osram.com/scripts/tabelle.asp?tblid=3D631 My illumination at work and home: Flourescent tubes: all main illumination =20 (Most inductive ballast types, three electronic ballast) Low energy lamps and compact flourescent: All tables and outdoors Halogen spots: some work places Conventional incandescent: only over beds Also amongst halogen incandescent there is big difference. I=B4ve tried= some low cost, but they seem ended up high cost due to frequent change... Have sombebody tried the very high quality (high efficiency, long life)= types like OSRAM halostar or similar? Experience? (Nice: I've read they= have a IR reflecting film that reflects the heat back to the incandescent= wire thus higher efficiency) Im=B4thinking about changing main illuminaiton in my lab to discharge lamps.= They now com in wattages down to 75W from Philips and/or OSRAM (don=B4t= remember exact types i=B4ve looked at now) Theese are higher efficiency= and more consistent spectrum than normal flourescent, and I also plan to= make bright desktop work illumination with them. Have somebody tried them? www.osram.com http://www.lighting.philips.com/ Here is nice spectal comparison (in swedish) http://www.osram.se/kategorier.asp?Huvud=3D6&Huvudet=3D6&Kategori=3D7 Bottom pictures:=20 Left: natural daylight,=20 Middle: Normal incandescent Regards /Morgan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu