> As a businessman and small manufacturer I don't > think efficiency is an issue. If you know you sell > 100k+ bulbs each month to a country why would you > make changes that reduced that figure?? Because if you don't the competition will reduce it even more. > I have also started using high efficiency compact > fluorescents (bulb replacements) but if you have ever > opened one of these they use a lot of small parts run > very close to their limits, again designed to last > a number of weeks and fail. You know too much . I've used a bunch of these and so far have only replaced two in several years. One was a genuine failure because something in the electronics broke. The other got used a lot and eventually got dimmer and didn't start right, but I think I got the rated life out of it. ******************************************************************** Olin Lathrop, embedded systems consultant in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, olin@embedinc.com, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.