I have been reading the bulb-life discussion, specifically regarding the doubling of the bulbs life expectancy from dropping the AC voltage a few percent. I just want to state that you can get many times this effect from adding a series resistor, which drops the voltage as desired, BUT ALSO reduces the start current of the cold filament. So if just dropping the voltage 5% can give double the bulb life, doing this with a series resistor can give 10x or more bulb life. I measured a 240vac 60w bulb, at 60 ohms cold. If you turn on the switch at the ac peak, this will give 340v into a 60 ohm filament! That is worst case power of 1927w, Almost 2kW!!! No wonder they blow every ten weeks or less, and I have "light bulbs" on most of my shopping lists. If you drop just 5% of running voltage with a resistor, with a 60w bulb it needs about 50 ohms series resistor. The bulb gets 5% less volts when running and is almost as bright. BUT! Now at cold start the worst case power in the filament is almost a quarter of what it was, and the number one cause of bulb death is virtually eliminated. It's quite possible to get 10 years or more from an incandescent bulb, maybe 20 or 30 times the "normal" life span. I learned this from an old electrician when I was an apprentice. He did this 5% trick on some of the bulbs in very high places. And some bulbs were so old they were almost black. :o) What irks me is that the bulb manufacturers could very easily add a 5% wire resistor into their filament designs, and make bulbs that last almost forever. They just rip us off in a cold calculated fashion with products designed to last a few weeks!! -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.