Thank you for the kind reply. I actually got smart enough to figure out that it was necessary to create a model. Drawing a circle wasn't as easy as one would hope :> but I now have a set of panel meters with labels and values. The next question is about the autorouter....I think my original layout was better than the autorouters'. Have you any experience with the Autorouter and it's parameters? I do not have a manual, just the online help . I inherited a machine with eagle installed...the online manuals are not as specifically helpful as one might wish.... sigh... Thanks again, Martin At 05:50 PM 7/2/01 -0500, you wrote: >Martin: > >I've been using the Eagle software for a couple of years - it's certainly >not the best CAD package out there, but for the price, it's fine. > >I don't recall if the library contains any panel meters or not. However, if >you have anything other than the demo version, you can create/draw your own >and save them as parts in a library. The manual has the details on how to >do it. > >Dennis -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics