Hi All, I don't know if this info is obsolete yet, but today I found that Microchip has released info on PIC ICD specifications. It's in Programming specification section on their web site: 51242a.pdf Tsvetan --- PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics