Well, if I had my 'druthers, I'druther have a first-class PIC Forth compiler. Compiled Forth seems more suited to small embedded systems than anything else I've used. Interactive debugging, small code size, high execution speed, short learning curve, etc. One thing I would change, tho... Forth assemblers rub me the wrong way. I would STRONGLY prefer to use conventional assembly language inline with high-level Forth. Mike Hardwick www.decadenet.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.