I don't have any method in place to stop archival of posts based on inclusion of copyright or X-NOARCHIVE, etc... If it gets to that point, and no one will volunteer the time to add those methods, I'll close the archive (make it not publicly accessible) or unsubscribe the objectors as the list members feel appropriate. Makes you wonder if it is worth it... --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of M. Adam Davis Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 14:40 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT]: piclist.com Dan Michaels wrote: > >1 - Can the public legally "re-sell" public domain information for profit? > Yes, in the context of quotes, with proper attribution. > >2 - Is a private organization the same as the public? > ?? Not sure what this has to do with this discussion. Private organizations are not afforded as many rights as individuals, but individuals don't have some rights afforded private organizations. > >3 - Can the public legally re-sell information if Bob has a copyright > notice attached to what he makes available to piclist? > If you make a statement in a public forum, and you only say "copyright...." then we can still quote you on sites, since you haven't made clear exactly what rights you are claiming, and it is assumed that since it is in a public forum that you are going to allow 'fair use' as applies to knowledge in the public domain, namely quoting, archiving, and other such 'normal' operations for the forum you post in.. If, however, you make a whole statement saying, "Copyright..., all rights reserved, this may not be used or stored in any shape or form, reproduction of all or any part no allowed, etc" then you could legally go after those who choose not to comply with your rights, though I suspect that the forum maintainers may choose to disallow your post if it is their policy to keep an archive, or something else about the way they run the forum is against your rights. >4 - Should we start posting things to piclist with a little copyright > notice on the bottom? > You'd need to talk with a lawyer. Even the most ironclad copyright notice doesn't keep others from certian uses of your post when you post publicly. I suspect, for instance, that you'd have a hard time prosecuting me for breaking up your message and essentially quoting it for a response. I didn't even leave the copyright intact! ;-) This is normal list usage (falls under fair use). This, of course, also means that even if you disallow archives of your messages, others may quote you and their messages will be archived according to their desires. There is a header most archiving systems will pay attention to that you can insert into your messages. Something like "X-NO-ARCHIVE=YES". You should ask the administrators of the archives if they pay attention to these (they had better be), and if so you can at least enable it in your posts. -Adam -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics