> Are you pulling RB4 to 0v to diable low voltage programming ?? > > Paul Harris I was not, but tried it (1k resistor to ground) but there was no change. I wasn't aware that you had to do anything special to program the device in "normal" mode. At any rate, I tried it and had no luck. Same error message, which, BTW, is the same error I get if I try to program an empty socket. :( -Steve -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics