> Yeah, get the ICE. I assume from the reference to "the hardware guys" that > this is a commercial product. Explain to your boss that buying you the ICE > is cheaper than having you mess about with a stone axe and bone knife. How > much time have you already lost? Too bad it's too late for that. The > ICE-2000 is well priced, less than the cost of a wasted day or two. It > always amazes me to the great expense people will go to save a nickel. > > Olin Lathrop FWIW: I know of a developer that wasted at least several days due to oddities and strangeness while trying to use an ICE-2000. One advantage of the ICD is that you are driving your circuit with the actual chip that will be used in production, mounted directly on your board. No funny behaviour (note the British spelling!) caused by hardware differences (thresholds, drive capability, capacitance, etc, etc). Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level software) -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body