Ake: I am sending this on to the PIC List. Please direct all your = communications to the list in general as others will be interested in the answers to = your questions. =20 As regards this particular question, I'm afraid I can't help you as I = have no knowledge in this area. However, I'm sure someone on the list will = be able to help you. That's what it is there for! =20 Good luck - Sam.... -----Original Message----- From: =C5ke Neehr [mailto:ake.neehr@telia.com] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:45 AM To: SamL@IN-INC.COM Subject: Prorgramming Hello Sam! Thanks for Your advices! =20 For me You seems to be clever on the PIC stuff! I have been trying to programm a 16F870 with a COM84 and PIP02 software, but it works not so good. I=B4m connected MCLR on pin 1, Data on pin 28, Clock on pin 27, VDD on pin 20 and GND on pin 8 and 19. Do You know any simple and cheap programmer with software who can solve this problem out ?? =20 Regards =C5keN=20 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.