> How does it looks signals on serial clk and data ?
Still no scope, so I cannot take a look....

> Do you have used ICSP
Yes, and now that you ask: when I put just the chip in the testclip I have
(almost) no problems.

> ? If yes, some anoying problems can be avoided if you have a pullup
> resistor near the chip on both clk and data lines and a small
> capacitor ( 10...100pF ) on data line. I've made three or four parallel
> programmers and some of those, doesn't work without this trick.
I'll give that a try.

> Some friends reports that 13.5V is not enough for some chips in new pic
> series.
According to the 16F628 spec it is the absolute maximum....

Wouter

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