Bats use ultrasound. Beam around 100Khz and listen for the doppler modulated return their fluttering little wings create. I thought a kewl yuppy toy would be a little phased array panel that fires compressed vortex rings to blow the wings off da 'lil suckers. Or perhaps just a brief squirt of water would do. I have a feeling that between a couple watts of ultrasound and the firecracker-like pop of the vortex cannon, it would be too obnoxious to keep around. Scott **************************************************************** Freedom is pursuing your carrot, not running from a stick. The mob only rules what its members are allowed to achieve. Democrats are the anvil, Republicans the Hammer, and we - the Piggy Bank **************************************************************** -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body