Dave Van Horn wrote: >At 10:59 AM 6/14/01 -0600, Victor Valdez wrote: >>Is there anybody that can help me to design a pic based interface for a >>brainwave monitor? I need at least a four channel display. It can be for >>pc or gameboy. ........ >You have a major amount of isolation work to do for anything like this that >connects to a line powered device. Serious safety issues. > >That being said, you need differential amps for the signals, with wide CMRR. >A browse through national semi' s web page should let you find some good >op-amps to do the job. >The most bandwidth you need is only a few hundred Hz, so you can really >compromise on speed. > Victor, EEG signals are very small, in the 5-100 uV range. You will need a differential amp, a low-pass filter, very good electrodes, and a well-filtered power supply, in addition to isolation as Dave said. Anything you connect to the body has the definite possibility of shock hazard, so this should be your first concern. Running your amps off batteries and feeding to a gameboy or battery operated notebook is a good idea. The amp should have the highest CMRR possible and preferably be battery run. 60 [or 50] hz pickup from the mains is a big problem with this type of recording, due to the low signal levels. You should try to put a lot of gain in the headstage, as opposed to downstream, because this usually results in less overall noise. You can use a "driven shield" on the electrode wires. You also need a very good ground/reference lead on the scalp, located near the recording electrodes. It's exact placement has a lot to do with the type of recordings you end up with, and you might do some research on what is called the "10-20" EEG arrangement. The electrodes should be high quality silver/etc, and contact made using conductive gel. They should be taped down firmed to prevent movement artifacts. The technicians usually clean the oils off of, and rough up the scalp surface a little, to get good contact. If you head is covered with a bunch of tiny little welts afterwards, the technicians know they did their job correctly. The headstage needs some kind of AC-coupling in order to reject the contact potential of the electrodes. You have uV level signals riding on a time-varying contact potential that is on the order of 0.5-0.7v. Plenty to think about, good luck, - dan michaels www.oricomtech.com ========================== -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body