At 11:16 AM 6/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >I am tinkering with an ignition system for a car, and want to include a >knock sensor. I imagine that the knock sensor is putting out some sort of >signal all the time, and you have to isolate the knock from other engine >noise, etc. Does anyone know what an "knock" or "ping" looks like, and >the type of circuit that might be used to [robustly] detect it? I don't think you'll have signal analysis problems, modern knock sensors are just piezo "microphones" that pick up the rather severe mechanical "detonation" in the kHz range. Expect output signal in the 1-volt range, give or take. You can simulate knocking by tapping the engine block with a hammer. You can model it as a ~1nF capacitor in series with a voltage source to the terminals, with a few megohms in parallel. You'll need shielded cable to it, of course. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics