At 02:25 PM 6/11/01 -0500, Dale Botkin wrote: >On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Niklas Wennerstrand wrote: > > > You cant toss away the caps, they are needed. You can experiment with their > > values to get the oscilator design to fit your microcontroller. > >I'm just curious. Am I the only one who has never used capacitors with >the crystal, and never had one fail to start? Or is this one of those "it >will work for more repetitions than you can test for one-offs and >prototypes but don't trust it for production" things? I once said this oughtta be a faq: http://www.dvanhorn.org/Micros/All/Crystals.php -- Dave's Engineering Page: http://www.dvanhorn.org I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to have it. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads