> > Can we take damaged 12C508s to throw you? :oD It's funny, remembers the school times! :oD > > > You threw IC's in high school? And I thought I was a geek. Rod and Gavin (BCC) may remember this ... We threw transistors (TTL was rather new then :-) ). Unmarked untested Germanium ex ??? in UK at not very much in hundreds. The things you learn at university .. :-) TURN OFF POWER Plug transistors into power points all along face of lab bench. Hide behind end of bench Make VERY sure all innocent parties are absent. Reach over to power switch Ignition !!! Poof, Bzzzzzzzh-wump - crash etc Broadside of metal transistor shells worthy of Lord Nelson thunders down lab. TURN OFF POWER Run in cannon Swab muzzles. New load of powder ..... hmmm, seem to be getting carried away here. Reload new batch of transistors repeat. Never a casualty. YMMV (very probably). Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads