I still think the best way is to have a hidden telemetry transmitter. That way you can catch the sob and inflict a different kind of pain. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of D Lloyd Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:49 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: A fool-proof bicycle alarm Hi, Not much is going to be effective......If someone is determined enough to steal something, they will......take a wheel off and they will throw it into the back of a van. Lock it down and they will turn up with a large set of bolt croppers. You cannot win, unfortunately, except to keep it in a place where is raises the stakes for someone to steal it - like in your house. Dan (Embedded Patrik Husfloen @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> image moved 30/05/2001 02:29 to file: pic05436.pcx) Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [EE]: A fool-proof bicycle alarm Security Level:? Internal Yeah I know hurting people would most likely get me in trouble and it was ment as a joke, if it was unclear I applogize (I blame it on the fact that that it's 3:30 am :) I guess Mr VanHorn is correct in his statement. /Patrik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Veys" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [EE]: A fool-proof bicycle alarm > Considering theft deterrant devices that cause damage/harm to the thief are > illegalish, odds are if someone got hurt by your system YOU would be the one > in trouble also, so I'd shy away from that (of course I'm assuming you're in > america, if not, laws may be different). Maybe try not leaving it outside > your house for hours? Your only real option would be an extremely loud and > obnoxious alarm in an extremely strong casing, perhaps even inside the frame > of the bike if you can dissassemble it to such an extent to get at the > tubing to install it. Triggering it with 100% validity and no "accidental" > triggers is the problem alarm makers have been dealing with forever, it's > tough to tackle. > > nick@veys.com | www.veys.com/nick > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Patrik Husfloen > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:46 PM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: [EE]: A fool-proof bicycle alarm > > > > > > Hi, > > I've spent some long hours trying to figure out a way to > > construct a bicycle alarm that isn't subject to kids poking at it > > and having it go off for fun, or just because someone bumped the > > bike by accident. > > I also want the alarm to either 1) hurt like hell, 2) hurt like > > hell, 3) make a lot of noise that hurts like hell. > > I've had my bike stolen about 7 times already and I'm starting to > > get sick of it, only once did the theives get caught, turned out > > they were drugged out losers, at least they got sent to jail. > > > > My bike isn't exactly cheap, about $1100 (USD), so spending up to > > $60-70 wouldn't be too unreasonable. > > The last time it got stolen I got really pissed off. > > I left it outside the house for about 2-3 h before I noticed it > > was gone, so I called the police etc. > > Later that night I was walking my dog and I found the bike (or > > what was left of it) behind a building, maybe 50m from the house > > I live in, completely slaughtered, not a _single_ screw was left > > in the bike. > > And they even cut(!) the frame (the only part left) in two just > > so they could get the read wheel with them, it had one of those > > big U shaped locks on it. > > > > My dad suggested strapping explosives to it, which isn't a bad > > idea if it could be made 100% sure no inncent people got hurt or > > that it wouldn't destroy the bike. > > > > Any ideas are greatly appriciated, > > > > Patrik > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body