OK, update, i just force fed it 13v to see if it would program (fed it from supply instead of programmer) and something seems to have toggled, it will now pull up to 13 v from the programmer but still won't program. thanks for ideas, dld On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 00:57:05 -0500, David Dunn wrote: >i have a 16f877 I just installed in my new PCB's, and it just won't program > >volts on PIN1 only seem to want to come up to 5.7 when programming on this chip, i have anouther PCB with a different >16F877, the prog volts come up to 13 or whatever just like it should. > >any ideas ? > >thanks, > > >david dunn > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList >mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu > > ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu