At 01:06 AM 5/29/01 +1000, you wrote: > I believe that the commercial >machines use a 'froth powder' to which they just add hot water, but this is >nowhere near authentic espresso froth. The machines for which I designed controls use milk, refrigerated to a controlled temperature. The milk is frothed by a venturi type of nozzle attached to the steam generator. The boiler temperature and water flow are both controlled (the later with an actual flow meter). It works well, there is probably some mechanical tricks to the venturi design, and of course the Italians have the edge in that area. Though, they make their cappuccini too lukewarm for my taste, I always order it "molto caldo" (sp?) when I'm in their wonderful country. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics