>Why did one make good coffee and the other bad? > >RM They both made the coffee about the same way but one would actually fresh grind the beans and then press the coffee, while the other had a hopper of grounds. The one that ground the coffee also got the water to the right temp while the other was cooler. The other part of it was that one was just to help the operator out ie it was meant for bars and restaurants etc, and the other was a standalone machine where you could walk up and plug your money in and get your coffee. Now take a wild guess which one made the good coffee ;-] The restaurant machine or the dispensing machine....... Big subtle hint, you won't find a waiter. Dave -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics