Have a look at the Industrial fibre optic sensor. You get quite a variety for diffirent applications. I would use a light beam in this case. I am sure froth will break the beam. You set the sensitivity to what you need. Most are 1mm Red light (Tx=LED) but you get laser versions as well (pricy). Omron.com Keyence.com And a whole lot of others. Quentin -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics