Chris (Carr): do you mean this: The I 2 C-bus and how to use it (including specifications) 1995 update ? Cos' if you do, this is the document I referred to in my original posting. I will be using Rs as in Fig.24 in said document but still I'd like to solve the mystery. In the end I'll have to tristate I think, or use two pins on the host for SDA and a NPN as OC driver, or even a shottky diode and a resistor in antiparallel. Oh well, I tried hard. thanks to all who answered, esp. Roman Black, Olin Lathorp and Chris Carr. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics