> Heat pumps of course DO allow efficiencies of > 100% :-) Not in usual way... If a heating pumps eat 4KW of electric power (for a pressure pump) and gaves 2KW of electricity and steam from 5 Celcius degree water, something is special there. Not "heating pumps" - "Heat pumps"; like in a refrigerator. You move heat from one place to another, using "some" energy, but you get heat output greater than the power you put in to move the heat... Nearly always used for refrigeration and air conditioning (pump heat OUT of the part you want cold), and sometimes for heating as well (when the difference between the external temperature and the desired internal temperature is relatively small.) IIRC, "efficiency factors" on the order of 4 (4W heat moved for each watt of power consumed) are pretty common. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body