>For more serious development, you might want to use Microchip's "better" >programmer, the Pro Mate, but it is significantly more expensive than the >PicStart. But what is the difference in the Pro Mate? The ability to program/test= the PIC in Max/Min vcc??? What does it a "better" programmer? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics