Ponyprog is also a great app, don't have the url here but it should be = on google. Not sure it works with your programmer though, works great with my = ludipipo :) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Tsvetan Usunov" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [PIC]: Just a funny history... > > Here was me, myself and I, programming a comercial device = that > needs to be ready to use tomorrow, spending all my brain cells in the = MPLAB. > Some >thousand lines of program, >=20 > you can put thousands line of program code in 84? ;) >=20 > > and everything SEEMS to be fine. I use the trusty old NoPPP to = program the > 16F84 (God helps me when I'll convert it to the >12C508...), and the = NoPPP95 > >by Rafael Cabezas (wow man, great program!). Program tested, = everything > working when I do one of the final "cleanups" of the >code. I program = a > 16F84 and > >NOTHING WORKS. Compile program again. Nothing works. Burn 3 times. = NOTHING > WORKS!!! > > > > Started to get desperated and looking thru almost a thousand = lines > of code, looking for problems. No problems anywhere. To resume a long = and > desperate >story, there is an error in the NoPPP95, that if you don't = change > the oscilator type from XT to anything to XT again, the pic JUST = DOESN'T > WORK!!! And I >forgot it for a moment. Took me 10 minutes of despair. = Go > figure :oP > > > > I dream with that picstart... >=20 > you should try IC PROG >=20 > also check our PIC programmers at http://run.to/kits >=20 > PG001 is fine for PIC16F84 >=20 > Best regards > Tsvetan > --- > PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb >=20 > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu >=20 >=20 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu