Im working on a project that uses a PIC16F877 to controll a 240x64 LCD, and I need to come up with a way to generate an ajustable 0v to -18v negative output from 1.5 to 2.0ma for the bias/contrast for the LCD. I've been toying with a MAX749 which is meant specificly for this but I am trying to avoid using an inductor, due to lack of ability to get one cheaply and because of the noise generation (this will be for an in-car audio application). I have also looked into various charge-pump inductorless types like the MAX681 (and other voltage doubler-inverter chips) but the most they can give me from +5v in is -10V, which is not enough. Tests have shown that I will require atleast -16v for any viewability of the display. The device will be used in a vehicle, so I can get at somewhat(?) regulated 12V power, so i can possibly get -12 or -24 and resist it down to -18 but I am unsure about the clean-ness of the 12V supply from the car. Note that I will be taking it from an output from under the dash which I beleave _is_ regulated at least to some degree, I'm not sure how they regulate the power but there has to be some regulation or the instrament lights/etc would brighten as the engine RPM's increse. Anyway if anyone has an idea of a good way using as few parts as possible that wont generate large amounts of RF noise please share the information. Rember I require only up to 2ma and I have access to +5v regulated and +12 regulated power sources. (the +5 is regulated from the +12 of the car). Thanks, Tim Thompson - Remember, 'kill' doesn't kill processes, users kill processes. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.