> I basically understand rs232 voltage levels but there remains one > ambiguity. If voltages in the range of +-3 volts are undefined, are > signals that fluctuate from -10 to +0.18 volts safely ignored? I have a > circuit that uses the idle receive current to feed the negative transmit > level. Yes, I can store the charge in a capacitor but I want to be > cheap. The result of eliminating the cap is the incomming rs232 signal > is echoed out but at levels of -10 to +0.18 and it seems to work. But > will it work *all* the time? Is this within specs? I am not sure but no, I doubt it will always work. "undefined" means "never go there", each implementation might result in completely contradictory results. I have seen many RRS232 circuits rely on the fact that they act as expected to TTL levels, but I have also found a few ports that don't respond well to TTL levels. If this is just a hobby project then go for it, but if this is a product then I'd be more wary on going this route. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads