At 08:26 PM 5/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >Mot's violating the spec, but they became the defacto standard, and AFAIK, >everything's still designed to work with what will work with mot receivers. How do you figure Motorola is violating the spec? The output of the 1489 is perfectly well defined for voltages outside the range of -3V ~ + 3V. People that use this characteristic of the 1489 receiver by _driving_ it with TTL levels (or outputs that cannot stand being shorted to +/-30V and the rest of it) are violating the spec, but Motorola isn't, as I see it. Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads