Hi Nigel, It's quite a bit more comprehensive than what I've been using. I've just used the Microchip suggested code. I'll add it to my El Cheapo and see how it works. Just to make sure I'm clear on everything, the constant "ProgDelayTime" is 10 msecs for the flash parts? myke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Goodwin" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: P16F84 'A' Fun and Frolics Reply Deleted... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.