>chronic poverty, lack of freedom etc. There is something there that is
>wrong inside. Something essential, like people thinking in ways that lead
>to those disasters. There has to be a reason why a homeless person in the
>'west' is more wealthy than a working family in other places. I think that

        Yep, there is. It's called **education** and **development**. People in=
 Brazil isn't poor only because they don't have money. People in USA can=
 live with almost any deccent work! If you are a "wise" man (e.g.: got any=
 education), you can get a broken TV on the trash, and fix it. Or at least,=
 learn to fix it. The state and the "open mindness" of the people makes him=
 able of it. In Brazil, you will rarely find an old B&W picture, forget an=
 old television :o) I hope you understand what I say: "the west" people are=
 more educated and live in a more developed (state, place, people, market,=
 culture, et al) than us, Brazilians.

        People born almost equal - there is no noticiable diference between=
 newborn babies, unless it has some chronical deffect. But the quality of=
 education and values they get on their house, is what bring him to be a=
 good or a bad one. And the place that he/she lives, define the educational=
 level (note two variables here: QUALITY and LEVEL of education) of the=
 being. These togheter bring a better or a worse people. What do you thing=
 of a people that grows hearing musics like "a little slap doesn't hurt"=
 with a dancer slapping her big buttocks or something like "I'm a tiger,=
 I'll launch you onto the bad, and will put you LOTS of pressure". Dunno if=
 you can understand in english, but in portuguese, this is the kind of=
 music that defines all the girls as bitches, and the innocent people likes=
 to sing it!!! :oPPP

>a good start would be to define 'wealth' *at the same time* as defining
>your position towards it. I.e. don't speak 'in general', think about
>yourself, what you think and say is 'good' and what you want to have
>*right now* or in the near future (perhaps by necessity). Try to see where
>you would be living if most people would actually want the same thing as
>you (self-hypocrisy does not work, neither do utopias, and you can only
>lie to yourself for as long as you can physically bear it). I'm very
>curious to see the outcome ;-). I know it was interesting to see my own
>thoughts on this. I'd have to live in the west of the USA in the late
>1800's ;-).

        AAahhh, this is a very interesting talk. My life changed when I changed my=
 views of "wealth" and "goodliving", and now, even being a poor man (e.g.:=
 Low income, no own house, no car, only a bicycle :o)) I feel myself=
 happy!!! It's because now I can

        1 - Learn
        2 - Develop my abilities
        3 - Plan the future
        4 - Do something that WILL bring me money in a future (one day comes after=
 the other...)

        And in the future I will

        5 - Be able to save and buy a small house
        5 - Be able to save and buy an used car.

        The secret? Think low, and think farther. Every step you get, is one more=
 step you can add to your list. The list never grow too much, and you can=
 acomplish your goals, a little by little, and someday you "get there".

        But note that everything said here is in "this way" because

        1 - I had a good education at my home
        2 - I had a good education in the basics
        3 - I learned to be an honest and correct man
        4 - I learned to disguise sh*t of quality things

        So, **I learned**, things that not all Brazilians are able to get, even at=
 home.

        Well, too much of sociology for a PIC list, let's go back to the 14-bit=
 chat :o)

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