This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------352341298D9B1FAF156644DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit myke predko wrote: > Milan, > > I'm disturbed by the request for cracked software (along with many people). > It seems discordant to me to ask for people to both donate and steal. It is > one thing to appeal for older unused hardware from the owners and it is > another to ask people to break agreements which they have regarding > software. Are you sure that everybody on this list use full registered software? That NO ONE EVER break licence agreement??? I would not bet on that... If i keeped my mouth shut, and never say that i use eg. hacked version of Win,Office etc, anyone never suspect on me. Again, I HAVEN'T called on piracy, I just told, what is happening here.. I NEVER wrote crack, and I NEVER manually crack any software... Also, i do not remeber that i ever asked on this list to send me some software and/or crack... > Rather than asking for cracked software from people on the PICList, why > don't you appeal for legitimate limited use licenses of the software from > the owners? I would be surprised if you received unconditional rejections > if you were to plead your case to the publishers and ensured that the > software was not distributed beyond the limits to which it was given. Yeah, i dont need to mention, that i have emailed to a LOT of companies (do not need to mention their names, but they are well-known companies), which are developing PCB software, compilers, programmers, simulators etc...i got 0 (zero) answers.No one reanswer me to ask how to help - to get lower price or some other idea. Simple politic - "don't have money - can't use software..." And, also, i will ask you how you will act after 10years of isolation, when on 10km from you is war...Normal pay here (my both parents) for ONE month is 70$ !!!! Claculate how long them (and me) need to work to buy a simple programmer, compiler or some PCB draft software... Of course, that $70 is brutto - where is to pay taxes etc...how much i have cashe lefted? I dont offer you a piracy - i just told how it work here... "Take-it&shut - or leave-it" > myke > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roman Black" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [OT]: The value of a donation > > > Bob Ammerman wrote: > > > > > > Milan pronounced: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I allways can offer to help somene with some advice or idea. Maybe to > write > > > some >oftware (or to send cracked version or crack for commercial > > > software...)...The best >stuff we have here is knoweledge....and piracy, > of > > > course.. > > > > > > >Milan > > > > > > Please, please, please tell me this was sarcasm. > > > > > > Bob, I don't want to sound as though I am defending > > piracy but really the piclist should be greater than > > any one person's social or political views. Even in > > Australia where I am, and I consider it to be a wealthy, > > lucky country the average wage is pehaps half of the > > average wage in the USA, and many technological items > > cost much more here. Two or three times as much. > > > > When people like Milan and Alexandre talk about things > > like someone giving them a 16F84 makes all the difference > > you have to wonder about the things we take for granted. > > I order 16F84 in the 100's or 500's. Who cares if I > > fry one? But to someone in a country where they earn > > many times less than you and things cost many times > > more to buy, you must expect a difference in the value > > of items and the way they are treated. > > > > So you might think it is right to spend one week's > > wages and buy the latest compiler, but if you were > > really struggling to feed your family and the new > > compiler cost a YEARS wages maybe that would change > > your views? I know there have been some strong threads > > here about intellectual property, but if some people > > are too poor to EVER afford your software does it hurt > > you economically if maybe some of them use it without > > permission? Maybe this is like a de-facto form > > or charity where the rich help the needy anyway. > > The world balances out, it always has. > > > > I respect your moral values but I also respect > > other people's values and try to remember that > > my values are for me. :o) > > -Roman > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. 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