Look at the International Rectifier web page. They have the info and the components to do what you want. -Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Smith" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: [EE] three-phase power measurement, and rectifier output > I posed the following two questions on sci.electronics, but got no replies. > I'm posting them here because I know that there are people here who have > used PICs for power measurement. > > > > 1: > > I've been trying to figure out how to measure the power consumption on > a three-phase wye circuit, and I'm stumped. > > Things I can measure: > > Vx, Vy, Vz: voltage on each phase relative to neutral > Ix, Iy, Iz: current on each phase > In: current on neutral > > Wanted: equation giving power consumption as a function of these variables > > For instance, with a normal single-phase device I measure the power > consumed by integrating Vx*Ix. This is simpler because there's only a > single path for the current. In the three-phase case, there may be varying > phase-to-phase loads as well as phase-to-neutral loads. > > My first thought was to integrate Vx*Ix + Vy*Iy + Vz*Iz. But this doesn't > take into account any neutral current, and I'm not convinced that it would > be right even for a three-phase delta circuit (no neutral). > > > > 2: > > I'm trying to figure out how to build a three-phase front end to a bunch > of DC-DC converters (such as Vicor VI-200 series), and could use a bit of > help. > > If I run three-phase delta power into a bridge rectifier as shown below, > what is the relation between the phase-to-phase input voltage and the output > minimum, maximum, and average voltages? Unlike a single-phase bridge > rectifier, I know the minimum does not approach zero. > > The cases I am most interested in is 208V phase-to-phase (common in the > USA). > > I've checked some of my electronics reference books, and they don't seem > to cover this case. Web searches for three-phase rectifiers on Google and > Altavista come up with all sorts of information on "controlled rectifiers", > which replace three or six of the diodes with SCRs, apparently for voltage > or power factor control. But I can't seem to find anything covering the > simple "uncontrolled" case. > > > > Any help with either question will be much appreciated! > > Thanks, > Eric > > > > Crude ASCII art schematic of three-phase rectifier: > > > > phase X |\ | > -------+------| >|-------------+------------- V+ > | |/ | | > | | > | | > | | /| | > -------|< |------- | > | \| | | > | | > | | > | | > phase Y |\ | | | > -------+------| >|------u------+ > | |/ | | | > | | | > | | | > | | /| | | > -------|< |------+ | > | \| | | > | | > | | > | | > phase Z |\ | | | > -------+------| >|------u------+ > | |/ | | > | | > | | > | | /| | > -------|< |------+-------------------- V- > | \| > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu