It's a normal reaction to try and catch something if you drop it, after a few years you lose this reaction when you drop a soldering iron :-). I've heard that suggested as a test for the level of practical experience level of interview candidates - knock a soldering iron off the table... OTOH, cooks develop similar non-reflexes. None of knives, cleavers, or hot things from the pan are "to be caught." In general: dodge ! OTTH, have you ever watched or seen the work of a full-time professional rework technician (even those whom apparently lack any ambition toward being an engineer)? Amazing stuff... You can also have a lot of fun if you take some (say) networking software experts (say, BGP, Novell, and IP Multicast authors) and throw them in a room with some actual routers, DSUs, and CABLES. I had a wonderful time watching a non-working T1-connection get debugged at half-a-dozen different levels at a cisco Networkers meeting a few years back... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.