Perhaps my two cents worth of inexperience may help a student... When I got out of the service in '65, my first job was with Western Union in Boston. They assigned me to a bench to modify some old (EVERYTHING in WU was old, furniture from 20's and 30's, ancient tube equipment, etc.) tube device I forget the function of. I had almost no soldering experience. They had these huge American Beauty soldering irons with hot dog size barrels and pencil size tips. The wiring ranged from 22 to 10 gauge stranded and conditions were VERY jammed and crowded in the box. I had placed my iron in it's tip cradle and was looking in the box and trying to hold a 10 gauge piece, with a mind of it's own, in a very tight spot. Now the American Beauties were very old and had the ancient heavy cloth covered cord plugged into a strip on the back of the bench. The cord had slipped the iron back a little. While looking in the box I reached for the iron and grabbed the barrel full grip, all fingers and palm firmly wrapped. You didn't hold these irons like a pencil, you held them like a baseball bat. The Beatles have a song titled "A Minute is a Very Long Time". It's very clever and lasts exactly one minute. Let me talk to the students for a couple of hours explaining EXACTLY how long 3/4 of a second reaction time is... I was lucky. There was lots of white skin and some very bad, almost crippling blisters, but no third degree. For an hour or two after, everyone passing through the shop wanted to know what that weird smell was. Hope this helps someone, sigh... Chris Cox Chris Carr wrote: > > > > University rarely teaches you the practical side and it shows. > > > > > Apart from not knowing one end of a test-tube from the > > other, > > Or which end of a Soldering Iron to get hold of. I kid you not. > I spent days fighting off the Heath & Safety Gestapo because a > 3rd year student burnt his hand grabbing the hot end of a Soldering Iron. > > Yes he had designed, built and tested circuits - using a computer. That last > bit of information I failed to acquire before the incident, He had never > actually built a circuit using real components, but he had seen it done > once. > > The University where this student came from received a forthright diatribe > expressing my opinions regarding their teaching methods. They did include > some practical after that, then we devised a circuit specification for > students to design and build which we knew worked perfectly on the computer > but would never work on the breadboard without tweaking. > > For some reason the supply of students gaining industrial experience seemed > to dry up after 2 years. > > Chris Carr > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.