> > University rarely teaches you the practical side and it shows. > > > Apart from not knowing one end of a test-tube from the > other, Or which end of a Soldering Iron to get hold of. I kid you not. I spent days fighting off the Heath & Safety Gestapo because a 3rd year student burnt his hand grabbing the hot end of a Soldering Iron. Yes he had designed, built and tested circuits - using a computer. That last bit of information I failed to acquire before the incident, He had never actually built a circuit using real components, but he had seen it done once. The University where this student came from received a forthright diatribe expressing my opinions regarding their teaching methods. They did include some practical after that, then we devised a circuit specification for students to design and build which we knew worked perfectly on the computer but would never work on the breadboard without tweaking. For some reason the supply of students gaining industrial experience seemed to dry up after 2 years. Chris Carr -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics