I remember a few years back using a concoction of hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide, ratio 1-3 i think. Its probably not the safest ethchant in the world but boy did it work(i used to etch boards in 3 minutes) and it'll probably create your own mini hole in the ozone layer over your garage.I think the peroxide was highly concentrated as well Dave -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics